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Serpent is very pleased to officially announce that Gerd Strenge, better known as Mr Duango from Germany, has entered into a long-term cooperation with Serpent, for the development of offroad rc racing cars.

Gerd Strenge is famous in the electric offroad scene, for his very innovative Team Durango 1/10 scale 4wd offroad project. Gerd started this project in 2002 and he has been developing the car ever since. His Team Durango car has been European Champion and his cars have reached many GP, EC and even WC finals in the hands of famous drivers like Hara and Marc Reinhard.

This obviously also announces a return of Serpent in the offroad arena. Serpent has been very active in 1/8 offroad racing from mid 80-ties until late 80-ties. Cars like the legendary and EC winning Serpent Cobra and its successor the Serpent Spirit.

Serpent's R&D team and Gerd Strenge are now working together on a number of projects for the offroad market, but it will take some time before you will see the actual cars being introduced. Although proto-types have been running for a while already.

Serpent will introduce offroad cars in 2008 (both 1/10 electric as 1/8 scale) and Gerd will be one of the R&D team to work on those projects for Serpent. His massive experience in offroad and his innovative idea’s will be a major asset for Serpent to create some of the finest offroad cars the market has ever seen. His emphasis is always very much on simplicity and ease of maintenance, which fits right in with the product-strategy that Serpent has choosen.

Serpent will not be making a copy of the 1/10 Durango as it is now (as others tried or are still trying), but will take the design a few steps further into a new concept, which will ofcourse share many of the basic idea’s behind the successfull Durango 1/10 car.

At the same time development work is in progress on the 1/8 scale offroad car too. Some major races have been attended already (Proline UK race) and the proto-type will be used in a number of other large races now to further develop the car.

We are very excited to have Gerd onboard and you can expect some very attractive Serpent offroad cars in the years to come.

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Serpent drivers Billy Easton (USA) and Joern Neumann (Germany) have both placed their Serpent Durango based prototype 4wd buggies into the World Championships A-Main held last weekend. Billy went on to finish 5th overall while Neumann, in his 1st ever WC event, claimed 10th. Considering the level at World Championship events this was a fabulous achievement for both drivers, and the Serpent prototype buggy.

This years World Championships were held in the skiing area of Komatzu, Japan and the event was attended by all the major brands in this market, almost all with brand new cars and all with their world-class drivers present. The hosts did a perfect job in organizing the IFMAR Worlds!

Gerd Strenge (Mr. Durango), the designer of the Serpent prototype, supported both drivers in their quest for the WC title. Neumann has been racing the prototype for a long time already, while Easton, who joined Serpent in August only did 12 packs of testing before he needed to leave for the Worlds, his vast experience racing at the highest level paid off though! Even with very ample time to test and get used to the car, he got it dialed in quickly and with even more testing in advance his chances for a podium finish would have been bigger.

Serpent’s president Mr. Ronald Baar visited the event in Japan to follow the teams progress as well as getting a feel for the competition at this level of racing too. Serpent would like to congratulate new World Champion Jared Tebo of AE and also to congratulate the organization in Japan for staging a very well organized event. Also we like to thank Jimmy and Vicky for the nice reports in oOple.com covering much of the worlds and more. Check out the site:

1. Jared Tebo (USA) - 20 [10/10/0] AE B44

2. Ryan Maifield (USA) - 19 [9/4/10] AE B44

3. Ryan Cavalieri (USA) - 18 [8/9/9] AE B44

4. Masami Hirosaka (Japan) - 15 [6/8/7] Yokomo

5. Billy Easton (USA) - 12 [5/7/3] Serpent

6. Atsushi Hara (Japan) - 12 [7/5/2] Hot Bodies D4

7. Rick Hohwart (USA) - 12 [2/6/6] AE B44

8. Hayato Matsuzaki (Japan) - 11 [1/3/8] Hot Bodies D4

9. Naoto Matsukura (Japan) - 8 [3/2/5] Yokomo

10. Joern Neumann (Germany) - 8 [4/1/4] Serpent

Both Easton and Neumann will be doing their own race-report with more detailed information, which we will publish here soon. Both drivers will next need to get ready to race the Serpent 1/8 scale prototype buggy at the Worlds warm-up in the USA soon.

Although the design of this new 1/10 buggy is pretty much final, the development of the Serpent prototype will continue. The final car will have all the best features of the prototype and more, in a complete new design and look. Release to the market is scheduled for early 2008.

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Milles excuses donc mais certains ne s'embetent pas avec ce genre de subtilité de source!!

Voici où on été trouvé les images mises par erreur: http://www.rctech.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3698369&postcount=21

Si vous voyez une source, vous le dites!! J'ai simplement repris les photos sur rctech pour les mettre dans la galerie afin de ne pas les perdre (le logo du site s'ajoute automatiquement, j'y suis pour rien!) Et c'est très souvent que la source n'est pas mentionné, les images ou autres documents mis en pièces jointes.

A force de se dispercer et de faire son truc dans son coin, ça doit arriver!

Le sujet entier: http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthread.php?t=171642

Les photos avaient été ajoutées afin d'en montrer un peu plus sur les voitures, mais comme cela tend à froisser certaines âmes un peu suceptibles de leur personne, autant ne rien mettre!

Désolé donc de ne pas avoir pris les images originales initialement!

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Milles excuses donc mais certains ne s'embetent pas avec ce genre de subtilité de source!!

Voici où on été trouvé les images mises par erreur: http://www.rctech.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3698369&postcount=21

Si vous voyez une source, vous le dites!! J'ai simplement repris les photos sur rctech pour les mettre dans la galerie afin de ne pas les perdre (le logo du site s'ajoute automatiquement, j'y suis pour rien!) Et c'est très souvent que la source n'est pas mentionné, les images ou autres documents mis en pièces jointes.

A force de se dispercer et de faire son truc dans son coin, ça doit arriver!

Le sujet entier: http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthread.php?t=171642

Les photos avaient été ajoutées afin d'en montrer un peu plus sur les voitures, mais comme cela tant à froisser certaines âmes un peu suceptibles de leur personne, autant ne rien mettre!

Désolé donc de ne pas avoir pris les images originales initialement!

ah oui! carrément.... la moindre des choses étaient de citer Deuv quand même. Lui qui dégaine le clavier aussi rapide que son ombre sur Petitrc ne l'a pas fait sur ce forum américain.... étrange...

Deuv, 48h de retard déjà, allez, hop hop hop hop! :winner:

Pour les susceptibles, à prendre au second degré ;) (oui, oui, je sais qu il y en a :winner:)

Bonne journée & merci des infos

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Report by Billy Easton

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Far up in the Mountains of Japan, Mount Hakusan to be exact, we were about to embark on the debut of the S500 prototype’s first mission of attempting to take over the world.

As we arrived at the track the weather was much better than it had previously been for the 2wd portion of the event. The sun was out, track was dry and practice was about to begin. Having never actually raced the car at an event I was quite unsure of exactly how things were going to fare out. I had bench raced the car many heats and felt the set up would be a great starting point. Gerd and Joern were going to start with their already successful set up and would serve as a good comparison at the end of the day.

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After my first round of practice I chose not to change anything on the car, it was too early to tell what or how it was handling due to the green track conditions. Although it was the first run on the car, it seemed to be in the ball park. The next rounds of practice had come and gone; I was making small changes to the car, but really did not want to do anything drastic in fear that I could easily become lost.

I started working on the rear of the car first. I had a sway bar attached and found in this particular racing condition the car benefited without it. I was also starting to sway to lighter shock oil and spring. It really seemed like the track was low in grip and was beginning to break up bad in the banked sweeping turns. Many of the drivers were having a difficulty with the rough condition. It was simply time to find good bump handling and motor down, to allow for smoother acceleration and more consistent lap times.

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As I headed in that direction with a softer spring and 10wt lighter oil, as the conditions were deteriorating my lap times were actually stabilized at the same speed. So, things were starting to look up and many people were complementing me on how well the car looked. This was not only a confidence booster, but my chances of doing well were looking better and better each and every run.

After things were kind of heading well for me I asked Joern how his car was handling and he told me it had an over steer. I immediately told him to put in a front diff. He had been using a front one way. Although the track had long turns the track condition was too loose for him to keep his car smooth. After he changed to the differential his lap times too became better and he felt much more comfortable with the car.

The cars were looking really good for the qualification rounds, and I felt we were making great progress even with only two of the cars at the event.

I had watched many cars go around the track and I had picked out drivers of my own that looked to be doing well. I tried to learn from their lines and car set up as much as possible in order to better my chances to be ready for the early rounds of qualifying.

After the day of practice was over, on our ride back to the hotel we discussed our car settings to see kind of where we were at. Many things were similar, which was good, because nobody was “out to lunch” so to speak. Joern and Gerd felt comfortable with their car as well as I did mine.

We then headed down the mountain to pick us up some much needed McDonald’s grub. Since were staying in the mountain, it was difficult to find anything to eat other than noodles and dry foods. Joern was craving McD’s and I wasn’t about to say no to an American Hamburger, French fry’s and a coke with ice.

We arrived at the track the next morning to begin preparation for the first rounds of Qualifying. My objective was very simple; keep it on its wheels. After the first round was over I was sitting in the 4th position with a great point score. After 4 rounds of qualifying had passed I was sitting on a 4th and a 6th, not bad for a prototype or a car never used in competition by myself. I was really happy and looking to make the A final. It was not a for sure thing though, I still needed a good 3rd backup score. My 3rd score was in the teens and I had one last chance to get a strong one in the final and 5th round of qualification. As the tone went off for me in round 5, it was a good start, me and Masami swapped lead in the heat back and forth for a minute or two and then I made a mistake that would cost me big. I fell back in the pack of cars and was really unable to get back to the lead and would have to hope that my time was good enough to improve my points as much as possible.

I’m not exactly sure what my points total added to but it was going to be good enough for 8th on the grid in the A final. Yeah I was so happy. Joern had a great run of points and would end up 6th on the grid in the A final as well.

Billy Easton & Serpent President Ronald Baar

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With 2 cars at the event and both of them were in the final it was a great accomplishment not only for us as drivers but the debut for Serpent as well. Many companies did not even make the final with far more cars and drivers. It was very gratifying for us as a small team.

Going into the final the goal was definitely to move up the grid. I was not happy with an 8th place finish and was looking forward to getting closer to 5thish or better. As the finals were coming and going, things were starting to really look up for me. I had a 4th and a 6th, which were good points. I was looking at a tie for 5th. Going into the third and final main, I wanted to win, this would put me on the podium, and although I was asking for 2 miracles in a one weekend, I thought it could be possible. Well, lightning will most likely never strike the same place twice and after the horn had sounded I was struck from behind by another car and found myself stuck in a pipe and nobody saw it. So, I was half a track down before the first lap had completed. Some people had broken their cars, which was good for me, but would only allow me to end up 8th in the 3rd final. So, to say the least, I would have to settle on the points I already had. The good news was, I was in a 3-way tie for 5th and won the tie break on the fastest run. So, I had achieved my goal of 5th and was very satisfied for the result. Joern, was not as fortunate as me and was beat around by others and finished in the 10th position.

In the end, the race for 4wd had turned out quite well for Serpent’s small team. We had discussions every evening to see how we felt about our cars and what we might do to improve it the next day and or even on the production car. Although we did not win, the showing was very strong. Serpent entered into this market and is already making A finals at world championships. This is not something to frown upon, but to look at as the beginning of something beautiful. I am very proud to be part of the team we have created and look forward to being in the winner’s circle using Serpent product in the future.

Sincerely,

Billy Easton

Source:Serpent

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"RedRC have a CAD drawing of the new Serpent S500 on their site - the car should be shown later in the week at Nuremberg ToyFair in a pre-production state, but this is a first look at Serpents first 10th scale electric off roader."

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Serpent S500

The first product to be produced following the collaboration of Serpent and Durango designer Gerd Strenge. While keeping the spirit of the original project, the S500 is all new and has been designed from the ground up by our team of designers. The main features of the new car are its rear mounted batteries, central shaft drive, motor mounted front of center, ultra narrow chassis and easy access front and rear differentials. This car has already proven itself in its prototype phase, with the only 2 cars at last years World Championship in Japan making it into the main final.

From Redrc.net

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Pour information, la personne qui fait redrc travaille aussi pour serpent, il est donc facile de produire un dessin.

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Et bah, il n'a pas foule! Cela fait tellement longtemps qu'il est attendu que l'on se serait passé à autre chose.

Sous le joli dessin, il y a quoi? des cardans, une courroie? Le chassis toujours pareil, un peu plus large? Les accus: 3+3, 4+2? Pas d'hypothèse ou choses de ce genre!

On devrait en savoir plus demain!

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bon ben moi j'y vais vu la tronche des cellules je dirais cardans ou alors c'est une protection buldozer pour les courroies,pour être comme tous le monde on va reste en 2x3 arrière au niveau des accus et moteur central vu la carrosserie

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Ben déjà en lisant le texte que tu as repris ;) (hé oui, tu as le droit de lire ce que tu postes lol), tu saurais qu'il y a des cardans, les accus sont en position arrière et le moteur en position centrale avant ;) ;) ;)

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ben c'est bien ce que je disait,et oui reporter ou est le suspense tous est noté dans ce que tu as mis,a force de se faire recadrer on a tous pris des cours d'anglais,lol!!!!!!!!!!!!

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surtout quand on sait que la base c'est le Durango, on sait que ce qui est en dessous va y ressembler...

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ou alors il aurais décidé de tous changer,chose qui m'étonnerais vu le potentiel de ce chassis

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Juste une constatation sur le dessin, mais la carrosserie n'est plus rectiligne, il y a comme un élargissement en arrière des roues avants (en comparaison des images des autres messages). Le chassis aurait donc changé/évolué.

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salut d'après certain dire l'élargissement serait pour permettre d'installer de l'electronique standard et pas du low profile.

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moi je dirais plus pour lui coller un brushless et son vario ventilé,d'où la découpe des pontons,comme sur toutes les carro actuelles en tt,ça passe sans déformé la carro

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chuis comme fou...!xx!:g:tourne::envers::biz::blan::saut:

quel dommage que ce s500 utilise encore une technologie du 20ème siècle

je veux parler des nimh of course !

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ça reste quant meme manifique ! en esperant que le prix reste raisonnable !

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VUE SUR REDRC

Here are the first pictures of the new Serpent S500 4wd buggy. Shown today for the first time it retains the Durango feel while at the same time being completely new. The car has an anodised aluminium chassis with detachable sides and has some really nice details all over, especially the rear battery brace and quick release rear driveshaft for removing the batteries. It uses a dual pivot steering system and the servo is mounted betwen the posts and it was a revised geometry compared the the Durango

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AAAaaaaarrrrgh! j'ai une flaque de bave sur mon bureau!!!

On signe ou???:youpi:

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peut être devais tu attendre le tarif avant de signé,car une merveille pareil ne peut être que très cher,ou alors je comprend plus rien

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mmmh...

Mais s'il faut passer en 5 éléments ca peut être génant :/

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